An NFL player's speech in defense of family, marriage, stay-at-home mothers, and faith has triggered outrage and calls for his resignation. The secular world isn't used to hearing from people who live the faith. The only real problem is that messages like his are too rare.
I remember a day, not long ago, when athletes were clean-cut, polite and carried themselves with a high standard of behavior, on and off the field. What was not allowed: the loud-mouthed, uncouth, chest-beating, grand-standing animals, which are worshiped by the masses today.
Yes, I have heard these objections before with the use of NFP, as my joining the Catholic Church in ‘93 brought a lot of questions to the fore. And when Grace was given we were able to teach NFP to many couples as it was a lovely gift for our own marriage. We would teach the engaged about the serious or “grave” reason, that when it is a deep sorrow not to be able to welcome another child due to deep emotional, societal, monetary, health, etc. issues, then you know you could have a serious issue. It would be an issue for the two of you and a spiritual advisor for discernment. The practice of NFP can develop a great deal of virtue, including self-control, humility, patience, and ultimately a very real joining of marital hearts as we become an image of Christ’s sacrifice for his bride the Church, in bringing the spiritual and corporeal life in abundance. This kind of transformation due to Grace and Mercy does not happen overnight to the vast majority of us, so some that start out with an attitude of “two and done” will likely change their outlook IF they are not commiting the mortal sin of contraception and/or sterilization, or in relative infertility, IVF. And then there is always the added health benefit of knowing what your body is doing for the wives. And, in our diocese there are quite a few reverent Masses offered in the post-conciliar form; ad orientem, chant, boy altar servers and acolytes, dalmatics, incense. It is possible and it is growing. The young Mr. B lacks nuance, but God is faithful, therefore there will be purification-purgation as we all experience. It might be more intense due to the weight of the public witness. Again prayers for him and his. One item that I find interesting that is not much being debated re: Mr. B’s address, is his mentioning the threat developing in lawfare to us if we dare to name those who killed Christ or say something as true as Christ is King. Hmmm.
Thank you, Penny & John, for this explication of your mindset re N.F.P. Very regrettably, it is common and distressing.
To train persons/couples in how to avoid conception while engaging in sexual intercourse is training them in contraception, isn't it ? As asked earlier, does it excuse a cannibal if he uses a knife and fork ?
Now, to provide such tuition to a married couple who are experiencing a grave need to avoid a new child is perfectly moral - a one on one tuition precipitated by that circumstance, and as envisaged by Pope Paul VI. But to provide such tuition to a group of engaged couples, while it might not be theologically sinful, is certainly pastorally disastrous, facilitating the formation of a Contraceptive Mentality, and has significantly contributed to the non-Catholic perception of N.F.P. as "Catholic contraception".
And it doesn't stop there, because it is common for N.F.P. to be taught to our teenage girls at "Catholic" high schools. Just inculcating the Contraceptive Mentality which has been so destructive of Western Christian civilisation.
Penny & John, I hope you will realise that, in accordance with Church teaching and with pastoral wisdom, there is no place for the teaching of N.F.P. to groups, especially groups who have not yet begun to engage in conjugal relations. It's setting them up to fall.
Anecdotally, I had good Catholic friends, a married Catholic couple, who got involved in teaching N.F.P. in such manner as you describe. Eventually, they left the Church. And the contradiction between the "grave reason" and the expectation of regular/normal practice of N.F.P., indicated by such tuition as they were engaging in, was significant in their departure. I think they came to think of themselves as hypocrites.
In regard to finding reverentially, faithfully celebrated New Masses, you are very blessed to have quite a few in your diocese. Perhaps you have been catalytic in that regard.
You do puzzle me a little with your reference to "ad orientem". You have not dealt with the issues I raised of the proscribed ordinary use of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist, and the reception of Holy Communion in the hand.
Would I be right to guess that one or both of you are Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist ?
Thank you for your response. Ultimately the answer is for NFP and other things that the Church allows is, because there is logic, good reason and charity. The Church, our Mother, allows them, period. If folks are interested in learning how the Magisterium comes to teach certain things the answers are out there. St. John Paul II’s Love and Responsibility is a good read. I could go into great detail but for you I doubt it would bear much fruit. For those who desire to know more about the unitive and procreative benefits of using NFP when there is a just reason please keep seeking the answers. Beware of the ideologies on both sides, trust God and his plan for you. Usually a strong adherence to providentialism comes from men, as a side note. This might be helpful for some: https://youtu.be/p573BQOTFJc?si=HTJVevnK2VGHm4-g. Blessings, Penny
Salve, Penny. I notice that you insist on avoiding my points about the ordinary use of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist and the reception of Holy Communion in the hand. It is apparent that you are comfortable with both of these being part of what you have called "reverent Masses". And I have had to conclude that you, and very probably John, are an Extraordinary Minister. Your avoidance of my queries is not a good look.
Nor was it a good look when you and John ploughed into Harrison Butker from your position as self-appointed "superior" Catholics. It was that that brought me to challenge you.
And it is offensive that you dismiss as being ignorant those who might challenge you - for example, unfamiliar with Church documents such as those of Pope J.P. II. Your condescension in regard to Harrison's Catholicity being in need of purification is grossly offensive.
Thank you for the video link. But it was a very unimpressive attempt to "re-interpret" Humanae Vitae's clear position, so that Catholics could find themselves happy to resort to N.F.P. for less than grave reasons. Pastorally disastrous, as is illustrated by the Comment of "maleaturner".
You know that the Catholics in the pews have practised and continue to practise artificial contraception, despite the Church's firm teaching, and despite tuition in N.F.P. Why ? Because, on the one hand, our bishops and priests caved to the Contraceptive Mentality and haven't preached against contraception, and, on the other hand, those in the pews have recognised that the mentality is contraceptive, so why not just take the pill.
And just one little quote from the great Catholic novel by Francois Mauriac, La Pharisienne - "It is almost inevitable that the professionally virtuous should hold exaggerated ideas of the importance of their actions, that they should constitute themselves the judges of their own progress in excellence, that, measuring themselves by the standards of those around them, they should at times be made slightly giddy by the spectacle of their own merits."
So I was watching these "Novus Ordo Cringe Videos" the other day... (I don't recommend it, trust me) it had some of the most insane weirdness you could ever see in church, but I've seen quite a bit of it all already... and that was years and years ago. Nothing new there, the idea of 'entertainment' and the altar as a stage is perhaps the greatest achievement of cringe you'll ever see. There's nothing even entertaining about any of the nonsense I've ever seen. In fact, I find it difficult to believe (yes, I know) that anyone at all is entertained other than the buffoons clowning (in some cases literally) around on the altar.
Weirdo baby boomer old ladies prancing around in a talentless form of imagined ballet, raising their arms, bringing in remote controlled robots, bizarro and excessively bad stand-up routines by the priest saying mass, making even more bizarre analogies to aliens from outer space, childrens cartoons and soap operas... And the worst thing to watch is people in the pews pretending that any of it is even entertaining let alone 'inspirational.' Beyond whether any of it is sacrilegious, I would argue that it is all so absurd and cringe, it not only doesn't belong in church, it belongs nowhere.
The thing is, it's not just the FBI that doesn't want you to pray the rosary or attend a Latin Mass, and there can be no doubt at this point, neither do many of the archbishops....and dare anyone say it...
...but howabout circus clown masses? Yeah, that's totally okay. Right? As long as there's some mentally deranged person dancing around flailing their arms or ineptly playing an acoustic guitar, singing some folky rendition of "Were You There" obviously thinking of Woodstock while they try to sound like John Denver.
What used to be pretty common fair for Catholic public figures to share their thoughts about traditional "Catholic" things is now "offensive" to CATHOLICS? Yeah, I see now. Now I understand the Vatican Circus, the Picasso style depictions of the Stations of the Cross, the H.R. Giger Mosaics, the driftwood Crucifix, the Laughing Jesus Tapestry, and all the cringe of the past has finally come to its conclusion. Forget about whether people are wearing SpongeBob T-shirts in church, you have to ask yourself, are you really going to a church? Especially one that looks like a 1970s Spaceship designed by architects on Acid? Is the modern art distortion of sacred symbols really necessary on the priest's garments? Hell why not just sell Jesus T-shirts painted by Yoko Ono, have a circus every sunday and smoke reefer while the aged hippies and old ladies flailing their arms around sing Kumbaya while swinging rosaries around like jump-rope? What are we 4 years old? Is that what the Vatican thinks of us?
Sorry to rain on the circus parade, but the shallowness of this type of behavior is likely to be as offensive to Satan as it is to God Himself as to it's sheer ridiculousness and irreligiosity. It certainly doesn't feel like a religion, and I realize some people want it that way, but even when I was 11, I seemed to be able to understand some kind of mysticism while trying to light the incense for the priest saying mass and setting my altar robes on fire. I believe they call it respect. Respect for the place, respect for the power, whether it be of fire or God. Respect for the people in the pews, respect for the minds and souls of others. Respect for the fact that there must have been a reason for incense, and for the candles, the water, the whole ceremony. I guess I was trained by evil extremists, who wouldn't have dared play a boombox in church, or bring in some weird performance art dancers, or Bozo the Clown for that matter. The truth? People will go elsewhere, because spirit is a real thing, and the soul, and unless the Catholic Church wants to be some kind of laughable Televangelist Shitshow of Nonsense, with trained monkeys on accordions, the Flying Wallendas and Bearded Ladies, they better stop persecuting people who are practicing the actual Catholic Religion. Yes, at this point I think the conclusion is secure. The Pope just did that to you on 60 Minutes. As I tell everyone, I didn't leave the Church, it left me.
This has been the rage in discussion in my family and friends. How refreshing he was . Fair, kind and yet unwavering in his convictions and convictions that are timeless to the well being of a growing and loving society. No hate, no intolerance, just simple embracing of why we all are here; to multiply and be a good steward of what God gave us.
Why the outrage? Harrison Butker simply said what Christ taught during His public life, and confirmed when He instituted the Holy Catholic Church. As an eighty-one year old "Cradle" Catholic, I heard those words from the mouth of every priest, every Sunday, and every nun, everyday, who taught me in Catholic school. As teenagers, did we do some eye-rolling when the nuns warned us to "Avoid the near occasion of sin," and our priests gave sermons clearly condemning "B"movies, and telling us what sins were MORTAL sins? Of course we did, but a whole lot of it made perfect sense. With the "Conflagration" of Vatican II, the TRUTHS became unclear, and most of our priests and nuns accepted that they needed to take a "kinder, gentler" approach to teaching. THAT acceptance has brought us to this "outrage" because a Traditional Catholic DARED to speak the TRUTH to a group of Traditional Catholic students, at a Traditional Catholic college. My, how far we have fallen
He got some things correct and some things, like his take on NFP as contraception, and that the pre-conciliar Mass is somehow better than the reverently done post-conciliar Mass, horribly wrong. I grow tired of people not being able to make distinctions due to ideologies, both poles. He is very inexperienced in life, and even his faith life, and yet he was placed in a very influential position by Pres. Minnis due to his status as a sports figure who has made headlines in regards to our Faith. His zeal is impressive, but not his imprudence and lack of charity. I pray for his strength, humility, and wisdom for the purifying trial he is in.
John & Penny, I think you are searching for issues.
Natural Family Planning is contraception, as the term "family planning" is always meant to indicate. Protestants call N.F.P. "Catholic contraception" with a lot of good reason. As Pope Paul VI told us in his infallible but almost completely ignored encyclical, Humanae Vitae, the application of N.F.P. by a married couple is permissible only for grave reasons. To use N.F.P. for the same reasons that non-Catholics use the contraceptive pill, erases the distinction between those users, and simply indicates acceptance of the Contraceptive Mentality. Does it excuse a cannibal if he uses a knife and fork ?
Similarly, non-Catholics scorn Marriage Annulment as "Catholic divorce", and, again, they have good reason, because the mentality is almost always identical.
As for searching for a reverently celebrated New Mass which doesn't incorporate the ordinary use of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist and the reception of Holy Communion in the hand, good luck with that. Harrison seems to be well aware of that difficulty.
The problem is that he framed marriage as a vocation only as far as women are concerned. As far as the Church is concerned, marriage is a vocation for married people, meaning that it is equally his vocation. He is a very confused young man.
That a college thought it was a good idea to invite a 28-year-old football player with very little life experience to give a graduation speech is bizarre.
Sarah and Benedict, as the homosexualists have told us, when we use the term "gay" to mean homosexual, we advance the homosexualist programme. Please just use the word homosexual.
And, Sarah, I believe Harrison was absolutely correct to use the term Homemaker. That has been my wife's vocation for over 50 years, a vocation that incudes being a wife and mother.
As some-one used to say, the father is the head of the house but the mother is its heart.
Homemaker is the correct word. We need to stop running away from the truth and crafting the perfect way to phrase things so we can explain our way out of it when the outrage addicted get pissed. Plenty of outrage addicted on our side too.
Notice how the culture is fine with a gay man being a stay at home dad?
I remember a day, not long ago, when athletes were clean-cut, polite and carried themselves with a high standard of behavior, on and off the field. What was not allowed: the loud-mouthed, uncouth, chest-beating, grand-standing animals, which are worshiped by the masses today.
Yes, I have heard these objections before with the use of NFP, as my joining the Catholic Church in ‘93 brought a lot of questions to the fore. And when Grace was given we were able to teach NFP to many couples as it was a lovely gift for our own marriage. We would teach the engaged about the serious or “grave” reason, that when it is a deep sorrow not to be able to welcome another child due to deep emotional, societal, monetary, health, etc. issues, then you know you could have a serious issue. It would be an issue for the two of you and a spiritual advisor for discernment. The practice of NFP can develop a great deal of virtue, including self-control, humility, patience, and ultimately a very real joining of marital hearts as we become an image of Christ’s sacrifice for his bride the Church, in bringing the spiritual and corporeal life in abundance. This kind of transformation due to Grace and Mercy does not happen overnight to the vast majority of us, so some that start out with an attitude of “two and done” will likely change their outlook IF they are not commiting the mortal sin of contraception and/or sterilization, or in relative infertility, IVF. And then there is always the added health benefit of knowing what your body is doing for the wives. And, in our diocese there are quite a few reverent Masses offered in the post-conciliar form; ad orientem, chant, boy altar servers and acolytes, dalmatics, incense. It is possible and it is growing. The young Mr. B lacks nuance, but God is faithful, therefore there will be purification-purgation as we all experience. It might be more intense due to the weight of the public witness. Again prayers for him and his. One item that I find interesting that is not much being debated re: Mr. B’s address, is his mentioning the threat developing in lawfare to us if we dare to name those who killed Christ or say something as true as Christ is King. Hmmm.
Thank you, Penny & John, for this explication of your mindset re N.F.P. Very regrettably, it is common and distressing.
To train persons/couples in how to avoid conception while engaging in sexual intercourse is training them in contraception, isn't it ? As asked earlier, does it excuse a cannibal if he uses a knife and fork ?
Now, to provide such tuition to a married couple who are experiencing a grave need to avoid a new child is perfectly moral - a one on one tuition precipitated by that circumstance, and as envisaged by Pope Paul VI. But to provide such tuition to a group of engaged couples, while it might not be theologically sinful, is certainly pastorally disastrous, facilitating the formation of a Contraceptive Mentality, and has significantly contributed to the non-Catholic perception of N.F.P. as "Catholic contraception".
And it doesn't stop there, because it is common for N.F.P. to be taught to our teenage girls at "Catholic" high schools. Just inculcating the Contraceptive Mentality which has been so destructive of Western Christian civilisation.
Penny & John, I hope you will realise that, in accordance with Church teaching and with pastoral wisdom, there is no place for the teaching of N.F.P. to groups, especially groups who have not yet begun to engage in conjugal relations. It's setting them up to fall.
Anecdotally, I had good Catholic friends, a married Catholic couple, who got involved in teaching N.F.P. in such manner as you describe. Eventually, they left the Church. And the contradiction between the "grave reason" and the expectation of regular/normal practice of N.F.P., indicated by such tuition as they were engaging in, was significant in their departure. I think they came to think of themselves as hypocrites.
In regard to finding reverentially, faithfully celebrated New Masses, you are very blessed to have quite a few in your diocese. Perhaps you have been catalytic in that regard.
You do puzzle me a little with your reference to "ad orientem". You have not dealt with the issues I raised of the proscribed ordinary use of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist, and the reception of Holy Communion in the hand.
Would I be right to guess that one or both of you are Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist ?
Dominus vobiscum, Leo.
Hello Leo,
Thank you for your response. Ultimately the answer is for NFP and other things that the Church allows is, because there is logic, good reason and charity. The Church, our Mother, allows them, period. If folks are interested in learning how the Magisterium comes to teach certain things the answers are out there. St. John Paul II’s Love and Responsibility is a good read. I could go into great detail but for you I doubt it would bear much fruit. For those who desire to know more about the unitive and procreative benefits of using NFP when there is a just reason please keep seeking the answers. Beware of the ideologies on both sides, trust God and his plan for you. Usually a strong adherence to providentialism comes from men, as a side note. This might be helpful for some: https://youtu.be/p573BQOTFJc?si=HTJVevnK2VGHm4-g. Blessings, Penny
Salve, Penny. I notice that you insist on avoiding my points about the ordinary use of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist and the reception of Holy Communion in the hand. It is apparent that you are comfortable with both of these being part of what you have called "reverent Masses". And I have had to conclude that you, and very probably John, are an Extraordinary Minister. Your avoidance of my queries is not a good look.
Nor was it a good look when you and John ploughed into Harrison Butker from your position as self-appointed "superior" Catholics. It was that that brought me to challenge you.
And it is offensive that you dismiss as being ignorant those who might challenge you - for example, unfamiliar with Church documents such as those of Pope J.P. II. Your condescension in regard to Harrison's Catholicity being in need of purification is grossly offensive.
Thank you for the video link. But it was a very unimpressive attempt to "re-interpret" Humanae Vitae's clear position, so that Catholics could find themselves happy to resort to N.F.P. for less than grave reasons. Pastorally disastrous, as is illustrated by the Comment of "maleaturner".
You know that the Catholics in the pews have practised and continue to practise artificial contraception, despite the Church's firm teaching, and despite tuition in N.F.P. Why ? Because, on the one hand, our bishops and priests caved to the Contraceptive Mentality and haven't preached against contraception, and, on the other hand, those in the pews have recognised that the mentality is contraceptive, so why not just take the pill.
Let me conclude by alerting you to a video review by the extraordinary Fr Clay Hunt of Harrison's address - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUXpS6ghPUw.
And just one little quote from the great Catholic novel by Francois Mauriac, La Pharisienne - "It is almost inevitable that the professionally virtuous should hold exaggerated ideas of the importance of their actions, that they should constitute themselves the judges of their own progress in excellence, that, measuring themselves by the standards of those around them, they should at times be made slightly giddy by the spectacle of their own merits."
Dominus tecum.
So I was watching these "Novus Ordo Cringe Videos" the other day... (I don't recommend it, trust me) it had some of the most insane weirdness you could ever see in church, but I've seen quite a bit of it all already... and that was years and years ago. Nothing new there, the idea of 'entertainment' and the altar as a stage is perhaps the greatest achievement of cringe you'll ever see. There's nothing even entertaining about any of the nonsense I've ever seen. In fact, I find it difficult to believe (yes, I know) that anyone at all is entertained other than the buffoons clowning (in some cases literally) around on the altar.
Weirdo baby boomer old ladies prancing around in a talentless form of imagined ballet, raising their arms, bringing in remote controlled robots, bizarro and excessively bad stand-up routines by the priest saying mass, making even more bizarre analogies to aliens from outer space, childrens cartoons and soap operas... And the worst thing to watch is people in the pews pretending that any of it is even entertaining let alone 'inspirational.' Beyond whether any of it is sacrilegious, I would argue that it is all so absurd and cringe, it not only doesn't belong in church, it belongs nowhere.
The thing is, it's not just the FBI that doesn't want you to pray the rosary or attend a Latin Mass, and there can be no doubt at this point, neither do many of the archbishops....and dare anyone say it...
...but howabout circus clown masses? Yeah, that's totally okay. Right? As long as there's some mentally deranged person dancing around flailing their arms or ineptly playing an acoustic guitar, singing some folky rendition of "Were You There" obviously thinking of Woodstock while they try to sound like John Denver.
What used to be pretty common fair for Catholic public figures to share their thoughts about traditional "Catholic" things is now "offensive" to CATHOLICS? Yeah, I see now. Now I understand the Vatican Circus, the Picasso style depictions of the Stations of the Cross, the H.R. Giger Mosaics, the driftwood Crucifix, the Laughing Jesus Tapestry, and all the cringe of the past has finally come to its conclusion. Forget about whether people are wearing SpongeBob T-shirts in church, you have to ask yourself, are you really going to a church? Especially one that looks like a 1970s Spaceship designed by architects on Acid? Is the modern art distortion of sacred symbols really necessary on the priest's garments? Hell why not just sell Jesus T-shirts painted by Yoko Ono, have a circus every sunday and smoke reefer while the aged hippies and old ladies flailing their arms around sing Kumbaya while swinging rosaries around like jump-rope? What are we 4 years old? Is that what the Vatican thinks of us?
Sorry to rain on the circus parade, but the shallowness of this type of behavior is likely to be as offensive to Satan as it is to God Himself as to it's sheer ridiculousness and irreligiosity. It certainly doesn't feel like a religion, and I realize some people want it that way, but even when I was 11, I seemed to be able to understand some kind of mysticism while trying to light the incense for the priest saying mass and setting my altar robes on fire. I believe they call it respect. Respect for the place, respect for the power, whether it be of fire or God. Respect for the people in the pews, respect for the minds and souls of others. Respect for the fact that there must have been a reason for incense, and for the candles, the water, the whole ceremony. I guess I was trained by evil extremists, who wouldn't have dared play a boombox in church, or bring in some weird performance art dancers, or Bozo the Clown for that matter. The truth? People will go elsewhere, because spirit is a real thing, and the soul, and unless the Catholic Church wants to be some kind of laughable Televangelist Shitshow of Nonsense, with trained monkeys on accordions, the Flying Wallendas and Bearded Ladies, they better stop persecuting people who are practicing the actual Catholic Religion. Yes, at this point I think the conclusion is secure. The Pope just did that to you on 60 Minutes. As I tell everyone, I didn't leave the Church, it left me.
Well done.
This has been the rage in discussion in my family and friends. How refreshing he was . Fair, kind and yet unwavering in his convictions and convictions that are timeless to the well being of a growing and loving society. No hate, no intolerance, just simple embracing of why we all are here; to multiply and be a good steward of what God gave us.
Excellently done.
Sarah, you are correct and as always your content is fantastic! God bless you my beautiful sister in Christ! I love you sweet girl!!
Love,
Mama Bear 🐻❄️🐻
Why the outrage? Harrison Butker simply said what Christ taught during His public life, and confirmed when He instituted the Holy Catholic Church. As an eighty-one year old "Cradle" Catholic, I heard those words from the mouth of every priest, every Sunday, and every nun, everyday, who taught me in Catholic school. As teenagers, did we do some eye-rolling when the nuns warned us to "Avoid the near occasion of sin," and our priests gave sermons clearly condemning "B"movies, and telling us what sins were MORTAL sins? Of course we did, but a whole lot of it made perfect sense. With the "Conflagration" of Vatican II, the TRUTHS became unclear, and most of our priests and nuns accepted that they needed to take a "kinder, gentler" approach to teaching. THAT acceptance has brought us to this "outrage" because a Traditional Catholic DARED to speak the TRUTH to a group of Traditional Catholic students, at a Traditional Catholic college. My, how far we have fallen
Bingo. Right on target.
He got some things correct and some things, like his take on NFP as contraception, and that the pre-conciliar Mass is somehow better than the reverently done post-conciliar Mass, horribly wrong. I grow tired of people not being able to make distinctions due to ideologies, both poles. He is very inexperienced in life, and even his faith life, and yet he was placed in a very influential position by Pres. Minnis due to his status as a sports figure who has made headlines in regards to our Faith. His zeal is impressive, but not his imprudence and lack of charity. I pray for his strength, humility, and wisdom for the purifying trial he is in.
John & Penny, I think you are searching for issues.
Natural Family Planning is contraception, as the term "family planning" is always meant to indicate. Protestants call N.F.P. "Catholic contraception" with a lot of good reason. As Pope Paul VI told us in his infallible but almost completely ignored encyclical, Humanae Vitae, the application of N.F.P. by a married couple is permissible only for grave reasons. To use N.F.P. for the same reasons that non-Catholics use the contraceptive pill, erases the distinction between those users, and simply indicates acceptance of the Contraceptive Mentality. Does it excuse a cannibal if he uses a knife and fork ?
Similarly, non-Catholics scorn Marriage Annulment as "Catholic divorce", and, again, they have good reason, because the mentality is almost always identical.
As for searching for a reverently celebrated New Mass which doesn't incorporate the ordinary use of Extraordinary Ministers of the Eucharist and the reception of Holy Communion in the hand, good luck with that. Harrison seems to be well aware of that difficulty.
I reckon he doesn't need much purifying.
The church gave up its moral backbone decades ago when it was infiltrated by nefarious people, it is up to society to carry the faith forward.
Look at some of the book titles on this subject:-
Murder in the 33rd Degree: The Gagnon Investigation into Vatican Freemasonry Kindle Edition
by Charles Theodore Murr .
In God's Name
by David Yallop
Beyond Belief: The Catholic Church and the Child Abuse Scandal
by David Yallop.
The Vatican Exposed: Money, Murder, and the Mafia
by Paul L. Williams
Unzipped: The Popes Bare All : A Frank Study of Sex and Corruption in the Vatican
In the Closet of the Vatican: Power, Homosexuality, Hypocrisy
by Frederic Martel, John Banks, et al.
Shroud of Secrecy: The Story of Corruption within the Vatican
by L. Marinelli
The problem is that he framed marriage as a vocation only as far as women are concerned. As far as the Church is concerned, marriage is a vocation for married people, meaning that it is equally his vocation. He is a very confused young man.
The conflation of state in life with vocation that Church has done in recent years is an issue unto itself, and I wrote a piece about that a few weeks ago: https://kbarber.substack.com/p/rethinking-the-lutherization-of-vocation
That a college thought it was a good idea to invite a 28-year-old football player with very little life experience to give a graduation speech is bizarre.
Sarah and Benedict, as the homosexualists have told us, when we use the term "gay" to mean homosexual, we advance the homosexualist programme. Please just use the word homosexual.
And, Sarah, I believe Harrison was absolutely correct to use the term Homemaker. That has been my wife's vocation for over 50 years, a vocation that incudes being a wife and mother.
As some-one used to say, the father is the head of the house but the mother is its heart.
Homemaker is the correct word. We need to stop running away from the truth and crafting the perfect way to phrase things so we can explain our way out of it when the outrage addicted get pissed. Plenty of outrage addicted on our side too.
Salvation is still available, huh? How about that.